Holton Galaxy, ne vendono una su ebay a un prezzo interessante https://www.ebay.it/itm/325876678827?_t ... p_homepage e quindi, come mio solito, ho fatto un po' di ricerche. Son caduto su questo post di trumpet herald https://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/vie ... ?p=1281495
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tptptp scrive:
But, I always thought it was characterized as an "intermediate" horn.
e VetPsychWars risponde:
That is marketing bull.
I am getting pretty damned sick and tired of people classifying vintage horns by marketing.
There is no such thing as pro, intermediate, and student in the old days. Never was. You are doing yourself a disservice by insisting on classifications that the manufacturers didn't make themselves.
Instruments were produced for a price point so retailers could sell you a lower-priced horn if you couldn't pay a lot... or sell you the top of the line, if that's what you wanted.
Forgive me for being insulting, but yank your head out of your butt. Play the horn. If you like it? YAY! If not? It's not for you.
Many companies made a value line of horn. I know Buescher did with the Elkhart line. I know Holton did with the Collegiate line. I'be heard that Conn did with the Pan American line.
Ask Brett Getzen. Is their 300 series or 400 series a "student horn" necessarily, or are they built to a price point with the same care in design and manufacture as their more expensive instruments?
Just stop this "student" or "intermediate" crap and ask yourself, can I play this horn well? Does it have the features I need? Is the lack of an adjustable third slide an issue?
Not every horn is appropriate for every person. Play it and tell us. But don't dismiss some horn because of marketing crap, especially in the vintage horn arena.
Grr.
In pratica gli strumenti erano pensati per suonare tutti bene e non esisteva la catalogazione student, intermedia, professionale era solo una questione di marketing e di, passatemi il termine, finitura.
L'altro spunto:
Capt. Kirk scrive:
Never owned one (holton galaxy n.d.r.) but want to. I like them. They tend to have a much darker sound then is Bach. I hate everyone myself included doing the " poor mans Martin" routine because none of those ever are. The problem is the current market place baring boutique trumpets are all biased to the Bach-ish, American H.S. band sound because that is where 99.9% came up from so nothing to compare too that is not equally out of production or not a boutique horn.
So think pro and think darker then Bach 72 and lots of color. Like any trumpet player sound concept and MP are always in this equation.
It is hard to find one that is not beat to snot. I was not alive when they where making these so I am not sure if it was their price or the brand but they seem to show up on ebay beat to death. They always sell for far more then I think they should kind of like the beat to snot Martins Com horn that seem to go for $1200-$1500 looking like they have been draged behind a school bus. Condition does not seem to matter with these anymore then it does with Martins of the right time frame.
Sound wise they remind me of a Conn Connstelation with a 3C or V cup MP. I would put the blow as feeling the same or more open. If I ever see one that is decent shape not going for some way too high price on ebay I would love to own one myself. It is nice to own toys that interest you instead of just playing with other mens interesting toys! I have a soft place in my heart for vintage trumpets that do not have Besson like bell profiles or sound profiles especially when they are domestic! Finding one in good shape is like trying to find a Getzen 90 Deluxe in great shape with the roller bearings in place and a bell that has never been wrinkled.....Rare
So in short if you like a darker then Bach sound and the price is right go for it. If you think Bach is the only sound concept worth owning stay away you will not be happy with this model. It is not so dark that you can not use it for all kinds of things it is just that you need to know it is not likely to blend in a section of Bach's and is not a good choice for doing commercial jingles or commercial overly bright jazz etc....It would be wrong not to point that out in this current era of almost all trumpets looking and sounding too much alike!!!
This next part might not be 100% correct but I think time frame matter's some as well. Like almost all all nickle trumpet models at some point they switched to yellow brass and just nickle plated them. I think this is accurate. Just like Olds Opera started out with almost all nickle construction at some point they went to just nickle plating yellow brass. I have an Olds Opera Bell that is raw brass. So if this is important to you and I am not so sure it should matter that much make sure you do your home work and make sure you get one before they switched materials. If this is not true of that model then it is one less thing to worry about. Check with an expert in these I am just a fan that like how they play that would like to own one not at all an expert on them.
A lot of people today do not get vintage horns that have non-Besson sound concept. We do not see the wide variety of bell profiles, leadpipes and sound concepts like we did in Pre-1950 Domestic brands that did not get there start copying Pre-War Besson design. I think by the late 1960's almost all original non-Besson like sound concepts and bell profiles where dieing off fast or totaly dead. Once in a blue moon you would see something but they did not last and are not with us today are they. SO just know that going in.
Holton horns get a bad rap especialy the large bore models of pro-horns they had and the older models like the Revelation and Lwyellen(sp). All of the MF large bore wonder horns for instance are treated like they are garbage by most and get talked down by most because they are not "Bach Clone". I just hate to see a good trumpet design get passed up because it is not a copy of everything else on the current market.
Ovvero
-1- esiste un suono vario e articolato pre-Besson che è poi diventato lo standard;
-2- esiste un suono diverso dalla Bach.